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issues of Whitewater, etc., they lose. They're going to have to take her on on the issues that really New Yorkers are going to look at -- do you want to be just taxed to death and more spending and more big government and can we contrast Mrs. 's positions and what it will cost people for many of the programs that she advocates?
So I think it's going to be more intellectual and more on the basis of who can deliver, who can get the job done, who's going to be better for New Yorkers? It'll be a great race.
CHRIS WALLACE: Mandy, let me ask you about that. I mean can't Mrs. be attacked as a big government liberal? Won't she be hung around her neck, the failed health reform plan?
MANDY GRUNWALD: Well, I think she learned a lot from the, from her episode in 1994 with health reform and has shown with the work she's done on other health care issues taking a smaller approach to things like HMO reform, the HMO of Rights, children's health coverage, that she learned from that experience. I think she very much is part of what she and the President have always called the third way, the sort of centrist place they've taken the Democratic Party. And there, I think people would be in, actually, for a lot of surprises on questions like welfare reform where she very much supported what the President did. I think you'd be surprised that, you know, where she, where you might cal her a liberal and where you might call her a conservative. I think she's very much where the President is on a lot of these issues and I think New York has made that choice over and over again that they support the direction that the administration has taken this country.
CHRIS WALLACE: Jerry Nachman, Mrs. has also gone on record supporting a Palestinian state. Not good politics in New York, is it?
JERRY NACH d