>>178620726>genius that doesn't make any of his own moves>copy ability never used effectivelyHe still uses Kamehameha. He's a retard that didn't so much as upgrade to Dodon Ray (or GG). At least he didn't see fit to lift a bad technique from Tien.
>>178621322I should mention (just for further clarity), that KKx4 is 32K (77% advantage). Goku needed to be nearly twice as strong as Vegeta while using that move to overpower him in the struggle (and did no damage save for the emotional).
>>178621062Correct. If you want the big hand-outs, you want Goku with the SKW giving him ki sensing (no effort) and passive Oozaru (canon x10 modifier). Goku is thusly one-tenth as strong in reality. Even with SS3, he wouldn't be able to get one over on SS2 Vegeta. It is a huge gap.
With GT, his SS4 shouldn't even get that modifier (making it a SS3 that doesn't drain him, but requires the tail). Not that Goku seeing Pan and/or Earth should have just given him the control he lacked when stomping Grandpa Gohan to death. AT should have remembered this and kept KK around (especially while making up drain for SS1, thus FPSS being a thing that would team well with KK). It would take x10 (comfortable with this on Namek) for him to keep up with Vegeta (at least) and x20 would wipe him out.
