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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 20:45:44 No.56952532 View View Reply Original Report

So whats the verdict on Russian made arms? Are the Russian incapable of utilizing the equipment they have produced or are their tanks, artillery and planes just badly designed and constructed?

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 02:21:42 No.56956359 Report

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The designs are solid. The execution never is. A fully spec'd out T90 with proper thermal optics should, in theory, be a decent tank. But it needs to be supported by infantry and drones, not sent out in force recon missions and turret tossed by some retard with an unguided rocket.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 05:48:14 No.56958155 Report

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Nah mate they're shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 06:39:56 No.56958488 Report

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>>56952919
>post-Soviet Russia enjoyed success in their invasion of Georgia
the Georgian war was a a fuck up of Chechen wars proportions, only saved by the fact that the Georgian army wasnt the Chechens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyEN3kR-uyY&t=19s

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:24:45 No.56958678 Report

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Russian hardware was decent enough in the 70s & 80s when they were at their peak. Yeah it wasn't better than NATO's but they had numbers. 30+ years after the fall of the USSR and Russia is still mostly using their old Cold War era shit. They never really invented any kind of new system. The T-14 would have been one of a select few of their designs that would have actually been NEW, instead of just slapping new ERA on a tank and dubbing it a T-90 instead of a T-72, but we all know how that shitshow turned out. Basically Russia would have never been able to easily sweep NATO out of Europe like they always claimed, but it probably would have been an incredibly nasty fight with massive casualties on both sides with superior NATO tech likely winning in the end, albeit after a lot of damage had been done.

Always keep in mind that Russia could NEVER have matched up to peak wartime productions of the USA, let alone the USA + EU. Pretty much the only country that can possibly come close to ideal American production is China, but they have their own issues. And if you hate that America is the one in power right now, blame Europe. For pretty much all of history Europe were the ones who were the focus on the world and were world police. After WW2 though, with them being broken and needing to recover, passed the torch on to the US to take up their previous job. Then, when Europe did recover, they found out, "Hey, fuck this world police business, let's just let the US do it and we don't have to deal with all the money, military & political shit we had to do before" and the US, a country with little experience at being on the world stage prior to WW2 was thrust into the spotlight. And we made a lot of fucking mistakes because of our inexperience.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:03:49 No.56958862 Report

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>>56952532
>So whats the verdict on Russian made arms? Are the Russian incapable of utilizing the equipment they have produced or are their tanks, artillery and planes just badly designed and constructed?

yes, both

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:44:52 No.56958758 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>56958781 >>56958817 >>56958838

https://twitter.com/Blackrussiantv/status/1619769832156860416
they're actually doing it

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:49:41 No.56958781 Report

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>>56958758
Imagine if the Russian fifth column in America turns out to be stronger than the one in fucking Serbia.
Because in Serbia, Wagner got asked to leave, Z graffiti get scribbled over and ziggers get bullied.
pic not related

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:55:17 No.56958812 Report

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>>56958778
just like jannies the ones that join will do it for free kek

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:56:04 No.56958817 Report

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>>56958758
an american wagner franchise would be 95% glowies at least

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:58:31 No.56958838 Report

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>>56958758
A neo-Nazi militia in the USA? Waoh... that's never happened before...

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:03:46 No.56958861 Report

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>>56958781
big oof

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 00:21:21 No.56955163 View View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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AR in Ukraine Edition
Last: >>56946549

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:58:20 No.56958836 Report

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>>56958805
>>56958748
The Gibbs should work on any regular lower.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:59:20 No.56958841 Report

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I'd hunt Ash for an sf3p

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:00:28 No.56958847 Report

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>>56955163
r8 my new AR bros, finna be here tomorrow no cap ong

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:02:48 No.56958858 Report

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>>56958847
Reddit/10

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:03:23 No.56958860 Report

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>>56958847
better than the bed wetter

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 00:46:43 No.56955414 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>56957756 >>56957790 >>56958800

Is it worth doing a degree in global security and tourism (also related to arms trafficking janny)? Apparently it qualifies you for one of those gay think tank jobs which pay gorillions

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 04:55:16 No.56957756 Report

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>>56955414
Get an international business degree, learn Mandarin or Hindi and buy shit from Asia for a clueless retailer in the US

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 05:00:19 No.56957790 Report

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>>56955414
Become a bookkeeper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 05:51:13 No.56958173 Report

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>>56957756
He'd be better off learning Vietnamese for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:53:19 No.56958800 Report

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>>56955414
>Apparently it qualifies you for one of those gay think tank jobs which pay gorillions

lmao these are sinecures for relatives and gay lovers. If you arent connected the meme degrees exist just to scam you out of tuition money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:02:53 No.56958859 Report

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no it’s not - I got a Masters in International Affairs, from a pretty solid well respected university with a Presidents name attached, but not Georgetown level), professors were Ambassadors and Intel spooks and shit - everyone of my peers has wild accolades speaks foreign languages travel experience, knowledgeable and informed about pretty much every international security issue etc- yeah most of the people I met in the program are now soulless powerpoint makers at DIA and hate their life. I went into debt for this (not much) but still LOL - It’s a scam don’t do it

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 05:04:09 No.56957810 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>56958820 >>56958822

>it's the zombie apocalypse
>better cut down my shotgun to exactly the legal 18.5 inch barrel length so I don't violate the NFA

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:55:15 No.56958811 Report

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>>56958761
Imagine coming on /k/ to totally not cope and seethe about how happy you definitely are with a meaningless life when someone mentions actual actualization. Act on your antinatalist, nihilist beliefs and do the world a favor or shut the fuck up.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:56:27 No.56958820 Report

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>>56957810
He was outside his domain, the permit didn’t apply.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:56:38 No.56958822 Report

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>>56957810
>Escape from Tarkov
>Presumably post-apocalyptic timeline in some Slavic shithole
>Still putting a pistol brace on your short barrel AK to comply with American law
ishygddt

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:00:31 No.56958848 Report

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>>56958582
You’re right. In fact, I’d even advocate a population culling by about 75%. But then I’m the edgy bad guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:02:47 No.56958857 Report

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>>56958785
The first game with none of the DLC and 2nd game shit was absolutely fine as your post-apocalypse plot. It was basically a broken old man getting a second chance at raising a daughter he lost many decades ago.
Then the DLC came with LGBT flavors. Then the circus that was the 2nd game.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 04:20:50 No.56957454 View View Reply Original Report

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what would you have added to the Grim Reaper?

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 04:58:47 No.56957779 Report

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>>56957742
you are sound sarcastic friend but waiting for the until T-55 with of modern kill adam tank xaxaxaxa

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 05:01:42 No.56957797 Report

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Missing a Mk.19 Grenade launcher on there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 05:04:33 No.56957816 Report

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>>56957779
excuse me

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 05:31:42 No.56958018 Report

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20mm M61 or a 40mm Mk 19. .50's are great and all, but you can't beat the HE from 20mm's and above.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:02:45 No.56958856 Report

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>>56957454
Wurfrahmen, German style

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Why is the British military so terrible now?

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 05:31:45 No.56958021 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:56:33 No.56958821 Report

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>never heard of argies blowing up a concert full of children, just saying
no they just invade and start wars in countries full of children, then get BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:58:07 No.56958832 Report

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>>56958299
>We rely entirely on our Trident system. Which is why we haven't got into a major bust up with Russia

>"We rely on the nukes so Russia doesn't fuck with, especially when they fuck with us."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:59:49 No.56958842 Report

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>No longer top level fighting force
So who is consodered a top level fighting force?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:01:15 No.56958850 Report

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>>56958842
The United States of America and nobody else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:02:24 No.56958855 Report

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>>56958842
Sayeret Matkal

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They never should have lost

Anonymous Sat 28 Jan 2023 23:38:45 No.56941878 View View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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With the absolute technical superiority there is no way the Germans should have lost WW2. They had the best small arms, best cannons, best tanks, best planes, freakin JETS and also they actually had camouflage. Yet somehow even with all this they got pushed back and lost.
I bet if they made more MG42's they could have held them back just a little longer maybe enough to pop out some more tigers or even stugs.
What does /k/ think would have won them the war?

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:38:26 No.56958730 Report

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>>56944656
>where there was the most bombings there was increased production?
You cannot read or are intentionally disingenous.
>Stat Bombing never worked for it's intended goal
Cope and seethe. It worked really well and broke Germany long before land war caught up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:42:44 No.56958747 Report

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>>56941999
>retelling - insta-kino
Half the cast would be inexplicably black women
Except the Nazis, the incompetents and the inevitable traitor, they'd all be white men
>I'm no vatnik shill, but marginal technical superiority pales in the face of sheer numbers
The Russians don't have "marginal technical superiority" like the Germans did; they're 30 years behind. T72s versus M1 Abrams is like Panzer 3s vs Pershings

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:49:21 No.56958777 Report

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>>56944656
I'm only just joining this discussion, but
>Stat Bombing never worked for it's intended goal, it did succeed in draining resources however by forcing Germans to take planes and AA away from some areas and putting them into others, but not to stop or even really slow production
Not just planes, AA and concrete, but also technological resources like radar and nightfighter development. All these sucked up resources the Germans could've used to improve the Wehrmacht capabilities on land. Furthermore, displacing the population created a refugee crisis which consumed food and other civilian supplies. In that sense, strategic bombing was indeed key to breaking the Nazi production and R&D complex, by opening another "front" where resources and research needed to be committed. W.r.t. the Luftwaffe in particular, they were exhausted by the interception duties and suffered a lot of casualties from escorts and pilot error especially the inexperienced pilots. It was a direct contributor to destroying the Luftwaffe and securing air superiority over Europe in 1944.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:58:18 No.56958835 Report

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>>56958777
Even with all this saying that all bombings achieved was draw resources to manage them is patently false. First of all, bombings destroy bombed things, and there was a lot of bombings.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:02:19 No.56958854 Report

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>>56958835
Let's not forget all the abandoned wonder projects Germany started doing such as wasting explosives and manpower trying to carve out giant bomb proof tunnels to stick future factories in.

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 03:30:48 No.56944368 View View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 05:02:41 No.56957803 Report

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>>56956540
Russian engine tech sucks

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 05:18:19 No.56957920 Report

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>>56956164
Didn't they get conquered nearly 400 years before christ was born?

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 06:31:05 No.56958438 Report

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>>56956698
roll

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:58:17 No.56958834 Report

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>>56944563
>Israeli Special Forces

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:02:05 No.56958853 Report

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>>56944871
AH
MY THIRST IS QUENCHED

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Anonymous Sun 29 Jan 2023 06:42:49 No.56945786 View View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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Has China ever won a naval battle since Zhenai in 1885?

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RC-135 Rivet Joint !!At65/c99Lta Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:07:49 No.56958610 Report

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>>56958543
No he can't lol

A Merchant ship has an IMO number and appears in AIS. The destination,cargo etc etc is all logged in massive databases for legal purposes alongside safety and traffic management.

All traffic destined to China will be stopped or sunk.(we have the submarine fleet big enough to shutdown all shipping lanes) All ships outside shipping lanes (tracked by BOA ISR assets like Tritons) will be hunted down and interdicted.

The Navy gets sound profiles,hullform images via SAR and even ELINT data from the radar and radios. This information is disseminated to Submarines,airplanes etc etc.

WE CHANGE FLAG U NO FIND HAHA

China flags a sizable fleet of vessels as Chinese or from HK. These vessels are on lists with tonnage,draft,freeboard (this information is tracked by the canals and ports authorities too,along side Governments.

Vessels not flagged by China STILL HAVE TO FILL OUT VOYAGE PLANS we created a global system to track ships because of terrorism and the BIG DATA BIG TECH revolution.

nonces the whole lot lol

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RC-135 Rivet Joint !!At65/c99Lta Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:11:42 No.56958626 Report

Quoted By: >>56958724 >>56958826

Imagine thinking that the US Navy can't blockade China.
Can't hunt down Chinese blockade runners.
and
Can't track and find Chinese bound vessels.

Hmmm this Bulk Carrier that always carried shit to China from Africa suddenly changed flags but is still on the route it takes to get to China... better not check that out with a visit from an ISR asset

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Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:36:43 No.56958724 Report

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>>56958610
>>56958626

Every once in a while I'll come to 4chan and someone will actually give information about something, Great thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 07:57:00 No.56958826 Report

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>>56958626
Imagine thinking that china can't just build 3 USN in a years and delete the US navy. Good luck fighting against the factory of the world. Enjoy how a reverse pacific war feel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Jan 2023 08:01:48 No.56958852 Report

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>>56958826
They can't even built one ship comparable to any USN ship. Making a tin can copy with inferior sensors, offensive and defensive missiles, crew, propulsion system, computers, etc. means nothing. Congrats, you have a Navy of over-sized fishing boats crewed by uneducated peasants.

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