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>>188122300
That's pretty much the only thing the franchise has going for it, the narrative has never been good. In that respect, 0083 is the peak of the franchise.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 01:09:46 No.188122334 Report

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>>188122300
>lowpoint
better than Tomino retcons and silly 0080

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 01:11:16 No.188122369 Report

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>>188122330
It is hard to appreciate the visuals when they are depicting such infuriating characters.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 01:12:05 No.188122392 Report

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WING IS EVERYTHING GUNDAM NEEDED

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 01:12:29 No.188122403 Report

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>>188122300
>0083 is the lowpoint of the franchise.
That's not 08th MS Team

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 01:12:53 No.188122411 Report

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>>188122369
Your problem lies in giving a shit about the characters in the first place.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 01:14:12 No.188122451 Report

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>>188121288
I think one of the top gundams is definitely unicorn the animation in stardust cant compete which makes for a better experience when watching the mecha fights.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 01:15:05 No.188122482 Report

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>>188122411
It's the fault of the previous entries for actually having good characters that made me give a shit.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 01:20:05 No.188122631 Report

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>>188121288
0083 is garbage. They really wasted those sweet designs and that OVA money.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 01:21:00 No.188122660 Report

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>>188122482
There are many series that blow Gundam's characters out of the water regardless of the entry. Characters like Amuro fulfill the good guy role in a very obvious and stale way. I won't deny that Char makes a good villain, but he's not particularly an interesting character just because he fills that role well. Even at the best of times, there's not much more to him than "muh gravity".

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 01:30:53 No.188122964 Report

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>>188122451
Except the characters and story is incredibly bad.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 02:30:27 No.188124668 Report

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>>188122267
lol no
it was shit

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 03:24:53 No.188126072 Report

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 03:54:38 No.188126903 Report

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>>188122300
>>188122369
>>188124668

/m/emes explain why it's bad

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 03:58:44 No.188127003 Report

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>>188126903
the plot and theme get really muddled in the latter half because the director changed midway. It weakens it a lot but I still like it.

I think the best one is 0080 if I'm speaking critically.

The most recent thing I thought was pretty good was thunderbolt.

I think the trick may be to do a smaller series that takes place a bit before zeta or after double zeta.

Or maybe during zeta? We need to get away from the one year war and focus on telling a tight, well thought out story where the robots are neato but humanity and war are what it's primarily about.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 04:35:37 No.188127809 Report

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>>188121288
80s shading is so niceeee

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 06:29:31 No.188129983 Report

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>>188121288
no

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 06:37:31 No.188130140 Report

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>>188122660
>There are many series that blow Gundam's characters out of the water.
Not really. Tomino tends to create exaggerated personalities but at his best they're thematically interesting and interconnected in compelling ways. They do what they need to do.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 07:19:23 No.188130894 Report

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was narrative good?

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 07:31:46 No.188131060 Report

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>>188126903
That Gundam show you loved? It's bad and you have shit taste.
That Gundam show you hated? It's good and you have shit taste.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 07:52:47 No.188131354 Report

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What's /a/'s general opinion about Origin? I'm new to Gundam and just picked it up

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 07:55:19 No.188131390 Report

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>>188121288
One of the best gundam of all time

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 07:59:01 No.188131432 Report

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>>188131354
It's alright, not the worst, not the best. Here's the timeline, somewhat dated by now. Probably best to watch them in release order:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gundam#TV_series,_films,_and_video

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 08:00:33 No.188131464 Report

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>>188131432
>shitty fanmade robotech timeline

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 08:05:09 No.188131528 Report

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>>188122660
>Characters like Amuro fulfill the good guy role in a very obvious and stale way.

I always feel like people miss that Amuro is actually a huge egotistical asshat, or is acting as a paranoid maniac half the time. If he'd started calling the Gundam "precious" he'd be doing a decent Golum impression when he steals the Gundam because bright wants to get other people trained to use it, so Amuro can have time off.

>>188131464
Isn't that from a G-Gen game which western fans added 00 and AGE onto?

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 08:07:31 No.188131578 Report

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>>188131354
Origin is fun, but it's like 50% fanfiction. If you can keep that in mind it's good.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 08:11:41 No.188131647 Report

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>>188131432
Thanks anon

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 08:16:31 No.188131720 Report

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>>188121288
If you take one of the worst Gundams as the etalon, then I can say that new gundams are already as god.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 08:43:00 No.188132117 Report

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>>188131354
The manga? Or the OVAs derived from the manga? The former is decent overall, if nothing else for the art. The latter generally suck, because they're adapted from the worst part of the manga. They're a needless, somewhat stupid prequel.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 09:06:39 No.188132427 Report

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>0083 and 08th MS team
>good
shitty romance ruined both show.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 09:23:36 No.188132646 Report

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i like the robutts going pew pew

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 09:39:55 No.188132905 Report

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>>188132117
I wouldn't say worst part, more like the part that absolutely doesn't stand on its own and really didn't call for an adaptation. These OVAs really weren't needed and shouldn't have been made at all.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 09:42:38 No.188132955 Report

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>>188130894
If psychoframe shenanigans pissed you off in Unicorn, you're going to fucking hate it. Otherwise it's a good watch, one of the better gundam movies.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 10:12:35 No.188133453 Report

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>>188132905
I would have preferred one based on it, that was more true to Tomino's timeline of events leading up to the OYW. There's not nearly enough Federation over-reaction. It should be.

>Declare independence
>Federation start building up an military immediately
>Zeon feel threatened and start beefing theirs up
>Federation escalate
>Zeon escalate (with Mobilesuit research)
>Riah tries to secede and federation invade with Zeon interfering to support Side 6's self-determination which shows off mobile suits for the first time.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 10:16:29 No.188133522 Report

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>>188122300
muh build fighters

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 10:40:43 No.188133917 Report

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>>188127003
>I think the best one is 0080 if I'm speaking critically.
Patrician taste. IMO one of the only times UC Gundam actually pulled off the war theme they were going for without getting bogged down in "war is hell; now watch these invincible psychic ace pilots effortlessly win glorious battles against all odds with plot armor and space magic"

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 10:44:31 No.188133973 Report

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>>188133917
It also helps that it's one of the few Gundam MCs who is a legit normal/sane, down to earth dude who just got stuck in a shitty situation of having to fight against another soldier who is also a normal, decent person stuck in a shitty war.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 10:45:06 No.188133979 Report

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>>188133917
Gundam's theme is hardly only "War is hell." The whole point of Tomino's "Adults are bad" and other shit in Gundam completely flies over your head

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 10:46:12 No.188133999 Report

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>>188133917
I would say the first part of F91 does it well as well.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 10:52:36 No.188134099 Report

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>>188133999
I enjoyed the hell out of F91. Such a shame the plan to make it as a TV series got scrapped but on the upside, movie quality animation. Also, the ending is one of the best gundam themes, along with stuff like Men of Destiny.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 11:18:01 No.188134552 Report

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>>188133522
The same people who hate 0083 also hate GBF though.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 11:20:34 No.188134593 Report

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>>188121288
Origin was very good, I enjoyed it.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 11:23:48 No.188134651 Report

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>>188121288
IBO is the best Gundam.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 11:26:14 No.188134687 Report

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>>188133979
Tomino has a lot stupid ideas. Like that colony in ZZ where people live as a pre-medieval society and you're clearly supposed to sympathize with that retardation.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 13:01:55 No.188136601 Report

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>>188122300
>He doesn't like TOPGUNdam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV6hW3fChTc

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 13:04:31 No.188136655 Report

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>>188121288
>fantastic visuals
>story on par with seed destiny
>literally the worst gundam protag in the franchise

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 13:34:25 No.188137269 Report

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>>188133973
Kou and Gato are also normal dudes.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 13:52:48 No.188137658 Report

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>>188137269
>spacer hitler III
>wojak blanco
>normal dudes

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 13:59:43 No.188137811 Report

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>>188122036
Don't call me just because you are lonely tonight.

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 14:28:02 No.188138367 Report

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>>188121288
Was this one before or after the one where Mexico was literally a giant Sombrero and the gundam was a bandolero with a cactus on its shoulder?

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 14:31:41 No.188138453 Report

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>>188121288
>>>/m/catalog

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 14:35:04 No.188138529 Report

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>>188138367
Before

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Anonymous Sun 12 May 2019 14:36:29 No.188138558 Report

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>>188138529
Ok so my answer is "yes, when that gundam came out"

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