>>243149213>Show Girls/Duelists fight in (almost) magical music duels to knock off each others button/rose and become Top Star/revolutionize the world.Utena didn't invent duels. Fighting a ritualized duel over something is a thing that happened frequently in real life. And besides, the duels and the revues are different. Revue places a much heavier emphasis on personal antagonisms and rivalries. The goal of the revues is to plunder each other's brilliance, whereas the goal of the duels is a nebulous "revolution". Both Utena and Karen join out of a desire to preserve a relationship, but the nature of this relationship is not the same.
>you need to admit the TV series drew way too heavily on the symbolism used in Utena for its revues ( biggest offender was Junna's)...I don't understand what you mean here, and to be honest, whenever you guys start talking about "symbolism" I tend to tune out. I just don't get it. I didn't the fuss about it in Utena either. If you have the time and inclination, you can try to enlighten me.
>QB/KirinCome on anon, it's a mascot. Besides, I can't think of any two characters that are as different as QB and Kirin. QB is a weird alien trying to combat the laws of physics. Kirin LOVES the butais. His motivations are intensely personal and emotional.
>Homura wasnt in homolove with Madoka since the start, it was a product of needing to loop so many times with the only thing keeping her "sane" being the feelings she had. Those being feelings of admiration for her savior Madoka, those became obsession as she had to keep looping constantly and at some point the suffering she shouldered became so much the only feeling she could use to "justify" it would be some twisted form of love.You are describing one of the differences between Homura and Hikari. I'm not denying that we have the cold black haired beauty / good natured cutie thing going on, but there are substantial differences.
