>>41521062Maybe, maybe not, but it was fundamentally not her goal to destroy Equestria. For her, she needs ponies alive and loving her to gain power, which means that any death or destruction would not be intentional on her end. Sort of like with Starlight. And even with the destruction thing, we dont know if it would lead to deaths. And considering that Tirek was willing to go along with the plan, knowing that even his magic would be stolen just to trap the Main 6, Tartarus must have some sort of food source. I doubt he was suicidal.
>>41521068>i don't think that applies to discord or starlight.It does though. Both of them did very little to earn redemption or trust for redemption before they were given their respective rehabilitation.
>trying to give him the benefit of the doubtThey were practically holding him at gunpoint. And again, it was Fluttershy's help that he even considered changing, which was something the trio never got.
> quite 'helped' at that pointHe was literally released for rehabilitation.
>friendship lessons seemed to serve just fine as rehabilitation for starlightIn a 1-1 tutor setting. Even then, she only stopped because the alternative would be FOE. Also consider her mindraping Twilights friends at one point.
>they had spears!Yea, and they were guards. Otherwise useless against any other major villain, but can still hold a filly still.
