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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 02:25:45 No.1648980 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1650264 >>1650915 >>1651057 >>1651137 >>1651150

What's the greatest RPG of the SNES library and why is it Secret of Mana

Hard mode - No Earthbound

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 15:17:49 No.1649873 Report

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>>1649835
>picking a Jew whore over a German goddess
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purim

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 15:23:13 No.1649876 Report

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>>1649871
Let's not forget that FFVII is just a remake of FFVI and that Squall was braindead the whole time in FFVIII and he's just living out his subconscious fulfillment fantasies!

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 15:26:27 No.1649882 Report

Quoted By: >>1649907 >>1649913 >>1649919

>>1649871
>>conjecture

Except it isn't, it was explicitly stated by Hiromichi Tanaka in the Seiken Densetsu Music Complete Book.

Now be quiet, you've been proven wrong already.

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 15:41:58 No.1649907 Report

Quoted By: >>1649913 >>1649915 >>1649919

>>1649882
>somehow, one idea splitting off into two projects means that the two projects are
>a) related and
>b) based one on the other
>somehow, reading more into it than what's there and reaching this illogical conclusion isn't total conjecture
Let me guess: state schooled?

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 15:45:47 No.1649913 Report

Quoted By: >>1649919

>>1649907
>>1649882
>conjecture - noun
>an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.
Sounds like saying that CT
>>1649021
>is a clone of SoM
fits that definition pretty definitively. As definitions are wont to do.

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 15:46:25 No.1649915 Report

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>>1649907
Are you fucking stupid, son? The fact they "split off" from the same project means they're related in their early development, simple as that. They don't have much relation past early development. It's not that hard to get dumbfuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 15:55:31 No.1649919 Report

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>>1649907
Seeing >>1649913, I realise that the person stating that they originated both from the same idea differs from the person saying that one is based on the other.
Had I realised this earlier in the thread, I would not have contested it. I was contesting the clone accusation, not that the two originated from the same idea.
Apologies to you, >>1649882, for my misreading. Friends? Ƹ(°_°)Ʒ

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 15:58:08 No.1649921 Report

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>>1649915
see >>1649919
I misunderstood your point and was arguing against a different point, one you didn't make but someone else did. Apologies. Seamos amigos?

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 17:52:44 No.1649921,1 Report Delete

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I don't like Mana games, the weapon percentage makes it slow and it doesn't help that game has frequent pauses while using menus and magic.

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 17:59:29 No.1650074 Report

Quoted By: >>1650304

>>1649839
The game is garbage and isn't even a footnote in Snes Rpg history. The music was good, what little of it there was, but most of the time it was dull ambient tripe. Other than the music, I can't think of anything positive to say about this game. It was such a mess that the team never made another Square Rpg again.

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 18:26:43 No.1650134 Report

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>>1649289
Kinda

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 18:28:09 No.1650138 Report

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>>1650134
forgot pic

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 19:06:41 No.1650209 Report

Quoted By: >>1650235

>>1649209
Excuse me for being a faggot but, what game is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 19:16:59 No.1650235 Report

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>>1650209
Eye of le Beholder.

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 19:29:08 No.1650264 Report

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>>1648980
Cliche, but mine is Super Mario RPG.

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 19:57:21 No.1650304 Report

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>>1650074

So often on the internet you run into people who love to rant about this game while knowing next to nothing about it. I bet you also think it was responsible for keeping SD3 out of NA and EU.

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 20:09:33 No.1650321 Report

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You just can't ask us to say the best game and then lock us out of saying the best game.

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 21:40:10 No.1650571 Report

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>CTRL+F
>No lufia
I am saddened, /vr/

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 23:46:05 No.1650848 Report

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>>1649228
>sequels sucked.

What?

The second game was great. It was basically more of the same with a little added character in the form of fleshed out plot and dialogue and some great monsters, too (the demons that looked like Snuffalufagus, for instance).

I do agree that the third was pretty shit, but I also only played it until I beat the mausoleum. After that I just lost interest. So maybe it had some redeeimg value later?

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2014 23:51:17 No.1650860 Report

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>>1650264
same here
it was an odd eclectic mix of Mario and square rpgs but it felt so right

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 00:10:46 No.1650915 Report

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>>1648980
HA

HA

HA.

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 00:21:23 No.1650936 Report

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>>1650915
but seriously FFVI is best

pincer attack me in the world of ruin and ill still get the drop on you

pic related: me and my girl. she just stole the show performing an opera and then got kidnapped by the worlds only airship owner right after (shit was not so treasure hunting)

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 00:38:56 No.1650979 Report

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>>1650936
this was the best battle sequence & music. in gaming. EVER. prove me wrong

i think square is more afraid to remake this game than VII

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 00:52:08 No.1651006 Report

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>>1649817
>Not Kevin

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 00:54:54 No.1651015 Report

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>>1649805
How is SD3 short by any stretch? You gotta go through a lot of content to find the mana stones, then find and fight the 8 god beasts then the final dungeon. It was a good length, especially without using a guide.

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 00:55:07 No.1651017 Report

Quoted By: >>1651021 >>1651069

>>1650936
Why are they both dressed as whores in that picture?

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 00:56:29 No.1651021 Report

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>>1651017
Because they are both whores?

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 01:02:22 No.1651037 Report

Quoted By: >>1651069 >>1651208

>>1650979
>See first post
>Dark Lich theme starts playing in my head
>Get here
>DancingMad.mp3

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 01:09:28 No.1651057 Report

Quoted By: >>1651062

>>1648980
>What's the greatest RPG of the SNES library and why is it Secret of Mana
A good question.

>Music
Pretty great
>Graphics
Ehhh... Okay. Great for its time, but later SNES titles overshadow it considerably. Terranigma, Secret of Evermore, Chrono Trigger are all superior in this regard. Evermore is even creative.
>Dungeons
Piss-easy. Too easy.
>Bosses
Inspired, but there's no challenge after the first tiger. Well, the first boss on the lost continent can kill you if he uses magic barrier early.
>Combat
Really, really bad. The percentage gauge will never, ever be a good thing. Magic is overpowered. Most weapons are pointless - people will invariably flock to lance, sword, axe. Bow exclusively for the first tiger.
>Story
Standard jrpg fare. Yawn.
>Difficulty curve
Complete shit. Either you buy the best armour on the lost continent and you get through the volcano with ease, or you miss it - which is easy to do on a first playthrough - and you invariably get your shit wrecked.

Is Secret of Mana fun?

Yes.

But it's got some pretty significant flaws that other games just don't have.

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 01:11:29 No.1651060 Report

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>>1649289
Is this game any good? I picked it up CIB with manuals and posters for $15. I got the genesis version any differebxe between this and the SNES version

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 01:12:43 No.1651062 Report

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>>1651057
>music
>pretty great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62mz4WbNx8w

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 01:14:57 No.1651069 Report

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>>1651017
locke went from rachel, woulda tried with terra, and got caught up with celes. he and edgar got all the babes all the time. surprised someone like him knows a king?

you know celes was hit on by edgar, setzer, experimented on by kefka, etc

>>1651037 ive listened to both since the thread started too, by now im on the 6 hrs of balance and ruin remixes

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 01:58:06 No.1651115 Report

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>>1651060
they're completely different games. SNES version is point-and-click controlled (but it doesn't use the snes mouse, you just use the dpad for mouse movement) with much less customization. You can't even shadowrun. On the flipside it's more story-driven.

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Delicious Flat Level !9Y.AGAi22w Wed 28 May 2014 02:11:05 No.1651137 Report

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>>1648980
Super Mario RPG is the best, though it's strange more people don't think that. Square was at their peak when they made it.

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 02:16:44 No.1651150 Report

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>>1648980
I don't know why but I feel like Secret of Mana is the perfect SNES RPG yet I'm too shit at playing games to play through it.

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 02:19:02 No.1651158 Report

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>>1649815
Holy shit I always thought Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana felt similar without really knowing why, guess that explains it.

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 02:21:28 No.1651162 Report

Quoted By: >>1651190

EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD ARE THE SAME PEOPLE AS IN THE 'CHRONO TRIGGER IS THE BEST RPG THREAD'

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 02:27:07 No.1651181 Report

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>>1650138
I'm really curious about this.

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 02:28:17 No.1651189 Report

Quoted By: >>1651195

>>1651021
>Because they are both whores?

So basically, "what if FF6 was designed by Tetsuya Nomura"?

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 02:28:49 No.1651190 Report

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>>1651162

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 02:31:09 No.1651195 Report

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>>1651189
he did the majority of monster designs, and the minority of character designs (setzer and shadow)

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 02:32:53 No.1651196 Report

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>>1651195
scratch that, character concepts i meant, amano still did the character artork

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 02:35:49 No.1651208 Report

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>>1651037
>They all have extremely dangerous weapons or are extremely strong
>Lock is thin as fuck and has a boomerang

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 02:48:01 No.1651236 Report

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>>1651208
I almost fucking posted that earlier are you in my party?

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 02:51:26 No.1651243 Report

Quoted By: >>1651261

>>1650936
Why do people like this kind of horrible animu fan art?
Whenever I see shit like this, instead of reinforcing my enjoyment of the source material, it makes me feel embarrassed that I share an interest with whoever drew that fuckawful abomination.

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 02:58:45 No.1651261 Report

Quoted By: >>1651273 >>1651282

>>1651243

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 03:03:30 No.1651270 Report

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>>1651115
What about the Genesis?

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 03:06:16 No.1651273 Report

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>>1651261

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 03:08:23 No.1651282 Report

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>>1651261
ZOZO? NEVER HEARD OF IT!

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2014 15:18:50 No.1651282,1 Report Delete

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>>1651196
Amano did illustrations independently for promos, manual and cover art. Actual art is done inhouse by Square.

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