Quoted By: >>44599504
Not sure if this is the right place for this rant...
I've found a few flaws behind the defense of systemd:
> It adds new features
It doesn't, almost nothing comes from systemd itself, except config files. the only "feature" one could recognize is consistency... But it, at the same time, these make linux less flexible.
How new are you to Linux? (How new is Poettering to Linux?)
> Process/deamon control
> Containers
See above. Cgroups is a kernel feature, LXC is a separate project, and neither of there features is systemd-specific nor dependent on it. There are tools to use this feature outside the systemd project.
> It's modern, 21th century tech
See above. Also, some of these "new features" have been there for decades...
>muh windows/solaris/mac feature
lel.
> It's open source, you should be grateful
Bullshit. I could code malware to destroy your disks. Would you thank me if I made it open source?
> muh boot times
http://gentooexperimental.org/~patrick/weblog/archives/2013-10.html#e2013-10-09T08_32_52.txt
That's how it got marketed in the first place, now it's a bunch of utilities taken from other projects and modified to depend on systemd. Also, a reduction of 10 seconds is useless in desktop and other systems, save a few.
> muh stability
People used to post their uptime all the time, as something you could be proud. They still do, systemd changes nothing.
> Poettering is a victim
He's in the same level as Linus Torvalds in their egocentric attitude, and both are as assholes as the other. Linus is almost irreplaceable to Linux, Poettering and systemd are a fad.
> You can fix/fork it
There shouldn't be the need to fork what wasn't broken in the first place. I also don't have the time/resources/followers as him, and I'm not being paid by Red Hat.
> He's doing it out of altruism
See above.
In short: systemd is worthless, and you bought the marketing newspeak.
I've found a few flaws behind the defense of systemd:
> It adds new features
It doesn't, almost nothing comes from systemd itself, except config files. the only "feature" one could recognize is consistency... But it, at the same time, these make linux less flexible.
How new are you to Linux? (How new is Poettering to Linux?)
> Process/deamon control
> Containers
See above. Cgroups is a kernel feature, LXC is a separate project, and neither of there features is systemd-specific nor dependent on it. There are tools to use this feature outside the systemd project.
> It's modern, 21th century tech
See above. Also, some of these "new features" have been there for decades...
>muh windows/solaris/mac feature
lel.
> It's open source, you should be grateful
Bullshit. I could code malware to destroy your disks. Would you thank me if I made it open source?
> muh boot times
http://gentooexperimental.org/~patrick/weblog/archives/2013-10.html#e2013-10-09T08_32_52.txt
That's how it got marketed in the first place, now it's a bunch of utilities taken from other projects and modified to depend on systemd. Also, a reduction of 10 seconds is useless in desktop and other systems, save a few.
> muh stability
People used to post their uptime all the time, as something you could be proud. They still do, systemd changes nothing.
> Poettering is a victim
He's in the same level as Linus Torvalds in their egocentric attitude, and both are as assholes as the other. Linus is almost irreplaceable to Linux, Poettering and systemd are a fad.
> You can fix/fork it
There shouldn't be the need to fork what wasn't broken in the first place. I also don't have the time/resources/followers as him, and I'm not being paid by Red Hat.
> He's doing it out of altruism
See above.
In short: systemd is worthless, and you bought the marketing newspeak.
