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>brb breaking the Treaty of Versailles >brb remilitarizing the Rhineland >brb invading Austria >brb invading Czechoslovakia >brb murdering Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, communists, and anyone who disagrees with my politics >brb murdering all of my political rivals >brb giving speech about how Germany should own all of Eastern Europe and replace the natives >brb allying with genocidal Japanese >brb invading Poland >brb launching undeclared surprise invasions against Luxembourg, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania >brb assassinating the King of Bulgaria and sponsoring a coup in Yugoslavia >brb setting up breeding camps between German officers and hot Norwegian women >brb openly talking about invading Switzerland >brb helping Italy invade Greece and North Africa >brb invading Russia >brb declaring war on the US for no reason >WTF why won't you let me own all of Europe you can still keep your colonies
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>>17282831 • • • • noncommunist european dictatorships 1918-1945
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>>17282831 Le bourgeois weapon without proof
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I can at least respect anti Hitler stuff from Slavic nationalists, but this is the gay liberal homo perspective
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>>17282831 Unity through nationality
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>Deny all reason and logic >Reject all historical evidence that disproves their Bible >Scoff at all scientific proof that debunks their god >Insists on believing a fairy tale with no evidence and wants to force you to believe it too
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>>17283105 free will but free will idea has from ancient but god is loving is a joke bro and love all people idea is even from china philosophy. If you think your idead from cathlic is good for you i ok. But atheist don't belive you idea because they want 100% logic from relationship to science. If not they will call you a cult. I mean they want 100% truth from bilbe if even 99,9% wrong you are in cult. That is atheist idea.
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>>17282864 To be fair it was not science that kept Europe from descending into chaos for 2000 years.
Dionysus-priopos
>>17283101 I’m disgusting and wicked? Your the one spreading psychosis, malignancy and degeneration brother? Which of us is telling people to actualize their free will? Which of us is saying the nature of existence is loving? Which of us is saying that the ultimate meaning in life is found in family?
Oh yea that me
And you are the one who is trying to convince people that they are weak and stupid, incapable of knowing truth or having agency, that they are not loved and love doesn’t exist.
You’re a pathetic little man whose mind was broken by some memes “disproving” free will or existence instead of understanding they were meant to show the limit of human logic to explain the natural world. And now that you have found out your retardation your doubling down, preaching about how your buck broken state is the goal as opposed to a sorry state you have mutilated yourself into.
>>17283103 >>17283102 You are both faggots spreading psychosis and lies. Existence is. You have free will the ability to accept the goodness of eternal truth or reject it and god psychotic. As long as you try to spread your delusions I will be here to correctly name you as fedora fags
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>>17283114 what the fuck are you doing free will is the concept from greek not your fucking catholic do invent that shit. And we don't fucking belive your god and don't become any shit you imagine we are people have moral that don't need any shit moral from your catholic idea to become good people. Reject what? what wrong with reject your god eternity.
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Just learned that Europeans and The West are considered as Edomites, descendants of Esau. How do European Christians feel that they are the antagonists of Israelites?
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>>17283027 He only quotes rabbis
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>>17283080 Yes, and those rabbis are peddling a cope from the Middle Ages. His assertions about muh Noahide law make no sense when you understand that the traditional rabbinical understanding of Christianity is that it is 100% idolatrous(it doesn’t get much more idolatrous than worshiping a mortal man as God) and would therefore disqualify it as a legitimate vehicle for Noahidism. Anything else is a cope disguised as triumphalism.
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>>17283100 Non of that is stopping it from American Christians adopting those beliefs, most are half way there. Also, the West being Edom is not a cope, it's actual symbolically and biblically accurate.
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>>17281796 This makes too much sense.
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>>17283106 >Non of that is stopping it from American Christians adopting those beliefs, most are half way there. Evangelicals are retarded. News at 11.
>Also, the West being Edom is not a cope, it's actual symbolically and biblically accurate. Says who? Some random guy? You don’t get to interpret the Bible in some ass backwards novel way and then get mad when few people give a shit about your novel interpretation. Schizos do this shit all the time and their interpretations are just as idiotic. The only difference with Green is that he interprets it in a way that benefits his anti-Christian position instead of the usual pro-Christian position. Arguing against an interpretation that nobody accepts means you’re arguing against yourself; not against anyone else. It’s retarded. The jews are not the bene gesserit.
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if morality isnt derived from religion, then why has every openly atheist government in history devolved into a murder-state whose only political currency is violence?
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Jainism is an atheistic religion, and there have been many Jain kings and dynasties which weren't like that
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>>17283007 Because unlike secularism, state atheism is a form of religious intolerance. Most modern states are constitutionally irreligious, but not anti-religious
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>>17283062 So atheism is inherently immoral?
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Pic is Philosopher Justin Martyr, Poet Homer, Historian Thucydides, Philosophers Aristotle, Plato and Historian Plutarch. All aside from Justin Martyr were not Christian or saints, but had great influence on the systems of theology of the church etc.
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>no latins/romans
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>>17280607 Justin wrote in Latin
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>>17280619 Romans were massive Hellenophiles 'tard.
Roman patricians often wrote in Greek
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>Entire energy/essence distinction was made up in the 14th century to justify the pagan yoga practice of monks praying while gazing at one's own navel and using breathing techniques
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>>17282042 >Essence >The concept originates rigorously with Aristotle (although it can also be found in Plato), who used the Greek expression to ti ên einai (τὸ τί ἦν εἶναι, literally meaning “the what it was to be” and corresponding to the scholastic term quiddity) or sometimes the shorter phrase to ti esti (τὸ τί ἐστι, literally meaning “the what it is” and corresponding to the scholastic term haecceity) for the same idea. This phrase presented such difficulties for its Latin translators that they coined the word essentia (English “essence”) to represent the whole expression. For Aristotle and his scholastic followers, the notion of essence is closely linked to that of DEFINITION (ὁρισμός horismos). Anonymous
>>17281988 CORRECTED:
>>St. Athanasius of Alexandria (c. 296–373) >>"God is invisible in His DEFINITION but made known through His works [EXISTENCE]." (Contra Gentes, 35) >>St. Basil the Great (c. 330–379) >>"We say that we know our God from His EXISTENCE, but we do not profess to approach His DEFINITION." (Epistle 234, Adversus Eunomium) >>St. Gregory of Nyssa (c. 335–395) >>"While we affirm the ineffable and incomprehensible nature of God, we know Him by His operations [EXISTENCE]." (Contra Eunomium, 1.16) >>St. John Chrysostom (c. 347–407) >>"His DEFINITION is incomprehensible, but His EXISTENCE descend(S) to us and IS made manifest." (Homily on the Incomprehensibility of God) >>Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite (5th–6th century) >>"God is known by His providences [EXISTENCE], but no one ever knows His DEFINITION." (Divine Names, 1.5) >>St. Maximus the Confessor (580–662) >>"Through His EXISTENCE, God makes Himself known to creation, while His DEFINITION remains beyond all being." (Ambigua, 10) In other words, They are arguing He exists (without proof btw. no proof, all belief.) but No one knows the Nature/Definition of this supposed existence.
Since no one cannot debate such definition, they insist you must accept the premise of his existence.
that's what it is being talked about
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>>17282066 >>17282049 >>17282042 I'm too much of a brainlet to get into a theological argument, but listening to Orthodox lectures about the distinction just really makes sense to me.
Especially the manifestation of this distinction in the Old Testament
>Moses and the Burning Bush (Exodus 3:2-6): >God appears to Moses in the burning bush, yet the bush is not consumed. This reflects God's energies—His active presence and revelation—without compromising His essence, which remains beyond comprehension. >The Giving of the Law on Mount Sinai (Exodus 19:16-20): >God descends upon the mountain in smoke, fire, and thunder, yet Moses does not see God's essence. Instead, Moses experiences God's energies, the tangible ways God interacts with humanity. >The Glory of God (Shekinah) in the Tabernacle (Exodus 40:34-35): >The glory of God fills the tabernacle, indicating His presence among His people. The "glory" (doxa) represents God's energies—His operations and manifestations—distinct from His essence, which remains inaccessible. >The Vision of Isaiah (Isaiah 6:1-5): >Isaiah beholds the Lord seated on a throne, surrounded by angels, and is overwhelmed by the holiness of God's presence. The vision represents an experience of God's uncreated energies, as no human can see God’s essence and live (Exodus 33:20). >Theophanies in the Psalms and Prophets: >In the Psalms, God's actions, such as creating, sustaining, and saving, are repeatedly described (e.g., Psalm 104). These are seen as manifestations of His energies, through which creation participates in His life while His essence remains unapproachable. Anonymous
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>>17282066 This is a just an incorrect translation. Ενέργειες or ενέργεια is never used by the NT or the fathers to describe existence. St. Paul literally uses it to describe the activities of God Philippians 2:12-13.
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>>17282128 theophany is not the same as energies.
>>17281988 nice brackets
>>17282020 No. Orthodoxy states all we ever know of God is through his energies. So if we have any communion with God he must be present in the energies. Palamas states blatantly that God is *entirely* present in the energies. Yet God is also the essence which is distinct from the energies.
This was such a blunder that modern Orthodoxy (the unchanging unprevailable original church (tm)) has walked back from it, coping that it was never a for real for real distinction.
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>rapefugee, turk :( >rapefugee, german :D
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germans didnt rape kids like you do, turk
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Japanese culture is just a cargo cult of Tang Dynasty Chinese culture.
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That's not true, they aped a lot from Korea too.
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>>17283044 I mean European culture is a cargo cult of Greco-Roman civilization.
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>>17283044 >cargo cult Nobody ever uses this properly.
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midwit take>america is comparable to late-republic rome >america is comparable to pre revolutionary france
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>tells the Hungarians to fuck off with their "compromise"
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>>17282314 >>17281914 >Russians literally side with the Austrians and destroys all hope of Hungarian victory in 1849 Oh no no no
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>>17281914 this but with Italy and Germany
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>>17281914 Either France or Prussia, Russia hated the idea of liberals.
>>17281573 Hungarians had been assimiliating well into Austro-German society for centuries, had the compromise never happened and liberals shot, Hungary would be Germanized by ww1, it would still become independant but would be under a weird limbo state as Ireland is today where they reject being Austrians and Germanic but speak a German tongue as their native language
