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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 16:49:11 No.11767220 View View Reply Original Report

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What’s the appeal of time trials in racing games?

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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 23:19:52 No.11767983 Report

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>>11767340
no, I think his problem is too much autism

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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 23:32:25 No.11768001 Report

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>>11767716
>It's fun to get better and improve, and even more fun to compete against other players times
I remember back in the day when playing F-Zero GX in versus mode, me and my friend would do time trials and try improving each other's times. It was fun and intense as fuck.

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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 23:32:41 No.11768003 Report

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>>11767268
Platformers

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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 23:36:15 No.11768004 Report

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>>11767340
Speedruning has different categories to allow different degrees of skips/glitches/exploits/etc. Many games have categories specifically for "playing the game correctly, just quickly."

>>11767220
We're getting to the point where personal improvement in games is seen as superfluous.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:44:19 No.11768909 Report

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>>11767220
*Dem draaaaaaeeels

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:43:52 No.11768908 View View Reply Original Report

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I'm not really a fan of the N64 but it is really cool how the promise of the system - full 3D worlds was realized with it's first game.

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2025 17:00:14 No.11764896 View View Reply Original Report

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What's that gaijin? You want to be able to beat the game? Too bad!

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:05:25 No.11768843 Report

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>>11768768
>That doesn't make any sense, why would you have to currency conversion for a game?
Gaijin are dumb, that's why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:23:05 No.11768876 Report

Quoted By: >>11768881 >>11768885

>>11768708
>>11768714
To go into detail, the made up currency in the game was based on the value of the Japanese Yen, Cave tried to change it to make it based on the value of a US Dollar, so they lazily just simply divided the money you can get by 100, this also had the effect of lowing the max amount of money you can get from 999,999,999 down to 99,999,990

However, the did not adjust the cost of the races. You have to pay to do specific races, which meant that not only was the game harder because races essentially cost a hundred times more than the Japanese version, but because the max amount you could have was reduced you could never make enough money to challenge the last rival. which requires 100,000,000. You would always be 10 short from being able to do the last rival race, and in order to face off against the last boss and actually beat the game you need to beat all the rivals first.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:26:32 No.11768881 Report

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>>11768876
Fucking shit up isn't rare during game development but this could have been caught easily if they at least tested the game for a couple of days

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:32:03 No.11768885 Report

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>>11768876
Now that you explained it in detail it makes a lot more sense why they chose to do that over doing nothing at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:43:27 No.11768907 Report

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>>11768885
I don't feel so, they could have just not fucked with the currency at all because it was a made up currency called "CP". It's value was based on the Yes yes, but it wasn't called Yen, there wasn't really a reason to change it's value to represent US dollars.

Also just how do you overlook changing the amount to get/max amount but don't change the amount required to do races?

From what I understand because of this incident they stopped changing currencies based on Japanese values after this in future games.

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2025 15:27:11 No.11764773 View View Reply Last 50 Original Report

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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>11754874

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA [Embed]
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ [Embed]
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0 [Embed]

== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
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CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:29:21 No.11768883 Report

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>>11768879
I'd argue that you really don't need to model to sprite something. But sprites based on actual 3-dimensional objects tend to be way higher in quality (doom and the build engine games did things this way)

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:33:45 No.11768889 Report

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HDoom's got nothing on this cotton-candy haired slut.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:36:37 No.11768894 Report

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>>11768262
this has to be one of the dumbest fucking webms I have ever seen on 4chan

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:39:14 No.11768904 Report

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>>11768879
Do you know how to model baybeeee

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:42:12 No.11768906 Report

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>>11768262
I remember when that IGN Doom 2016 footage first came out people thought they were actively trying to make the game look like shit out of spite because they didn't get a review copy or some shit
Funny stuff

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 01:22:04 No.11768201 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11768805 >>11768905

What's a good entry point for this series? I know nothing about it, I just want an interesting solid RPG to see if it's for me

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 09:54:37 No.11768770 Report

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>>11768298
While kind of being a sequel to the first two novels, the first megami tensei doesn't really have much to do with the books as a whole. Really only just the characters and setting. Not necessary to read any of them to fully get the game.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 10:29:49 No.11768805 Report

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>>11768201
>What's a good entry point for this series?
The one you posted was the first dungeon crawler I ever played, not including the Windows 95 maze screensaver, and I liked it. Getting into a series isn't some complicated witchcraft, you try a game and if you dont like it you turn it off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:01:53 No.11768834 Report

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>>11768647
>just start with Nocturne
Nocturne is a horrible starting SMT game. It plays nothing like the rest and is barebones and boring as fuck.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:12:13 No.11768857 Report

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SMT 1 but be forewarned that the encounter rate combined with the labyrinthian boxy structure of every single location will get old pretty quick, with the final dungeon being more of a test of mental endurance than a challenge.

You might think I'm exaggerating if I say you encounter an enemy every single step sometimes but I'm actually underselling it; you'll face 3-5 separate random encounters every step you take.

The SNES English translation has an extra patch for it that fixes some major bugs that used to prevent you from doing pic related even if you wanted to and are full Law aligned (forcing Neutral or Chaos endings). But there are still some bugs... don't let you Magnetite go above the 99,999 limit or it will erase all your money back down to $99,999.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:39:44 No.11768905 Report

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>>11768201
The first game is shockingly friendly for a NES dungeon crawler, there's a lot of thought behind the map design to make backtracking to town easy, and there's some unlockable shortcuts such as elevators that make travel even easier, plus if you game over, you can just continue and you will be respawned at the first town again, with half of your money and magnetite, similar to how death in Dragon Quest works.

Be warned though that the english translation patch for the game is buggy and will cause random freakouts and break the game. The freakouts are entirely random, so its best to play with rewind active so when it does break, you can just rewind back to before you finished selecting your commands, wait a couple seconds for the RNG to change, and then you can proceed with the fight as normal. There's also a an optional room in Valhalla that has a forced encounter with a unique enemy called Sand Rooper, which with the english patch consistently crashes the game 100% of the time, so be sure to avoid that.

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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 05:05:13 No.11766267 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11767143 >>11768903

Why is Sega ashamed of this masterpiece

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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 14:20:49 No.11766963 Report

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>>11766802
This was my impression. When it first came out it was colorful and you could do some cool tricks. That is about all I remember, playing it now it just feels clunky.

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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 16:01:35 No.11767143 Report

Quoted By: >>11767151

>>11766267
Wasn't he a Sonic reject?

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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 16:04:05 No.11767151 Report

Quoted By: >>11768903

>>11767143
The character that became Sonic was originally a rabbit that grabbed enemies with its ears. Ristar was Sega recycling the old concept as a new character.

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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 16:20:36 No.11767179 Report

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Not profitable.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:38:09 No.11768903 Report

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>>11767151
And then the rabbit became a skin for classic Sonic in the most recent games.
>>11766726
Ristar's design is much better but I kind of wish it kept the original name. Fits with the grabby gameplay better. Then again, people are still wondering how to pronounce Ristar years later, so maybe they were on to something.
>>11766267
I just think it has the weirdest and most unnecessary localization I've ever seen, tho apparently the PAL release was first by a month at least.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 05:50:17 No.11768529 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11768751 >>11768902

Why does this stage requires a hardcore speedrunning trick for A rank?

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 09:30:11 No.11768751 Report

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>>11768529
idk

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 09:31:12 No.11768754 Report

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>>11768751
you can also get the perfect bonus (its one of the few stages where its possible) for an instant a rank but you need to take the long way up the missile launcher to get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:12:34 No.11768859 Report

Quoted By: >>11768882

what's the hardcore speedrunning trick
I never knew about the bonus green hill stage because I never bothered to 100% this as a kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:27:43 No.11768882 Report

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>>11768754
>>11768859
>what's the hardcore speedrunning trick
>I never knew about the bonus green hill stage because I never bothered to 100% this as a kid

Easy way to A Rank Metal Harbor

>Grab every ring
>Use the homing attack on the gold beetle
>Get to the top of the rocket and grab the phoenix as fast as you can

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:37:57 No.11768902 Report

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>>11768529
>why does this stage require that I get good at the game in order to get the best rank on it

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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 21:08:55 No.11767719 View View Reply Original Report

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Why are every pro/ anti emulation arguments only about consoles every single time? I have never seen any quarrel about using something like DOXBox instead of vintage PC software.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 10:25:58 No.11768795 Report

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>>11768250
>>11768383
Good answers. Games were fucked up in different ways depending on your specific hardware even back in the day, so there is no point in caring about individual bits when they differed from machine to machine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:32:08 No.11768886 Report

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>>11768470
>Microsoft has the best track record regarding backwards compatibility out of the three main operating systems.
This, one thing that people can not fault MS on is legacy software support. Windows even has hacks/bugs it re-implements just for certain apps if it sees them running because these ancient apps relied on them ages ago. There is just so much legacy support you can still keep around, a big reason most DOS software no longer works is because 16 but support was dropped in 64 bit versions of windows... and it took until Windows 11 for Microsoft to only have 64 bit versions of it's OS, you could still get 32 bit versions of Windows 10, which yes still had 16 bit support. All current 64 bit versions of Windows still have 32 bit support.

The problem is with literal decades of old APIs and re-implementations of software you can't toss everything into a modern OS, especially when obsolete methods that software relied on ages ago have been replaced. Many of these can actually still be officially added back to Windows 11, they are just no longer included by default. Which makes all the bullshit they are pulling with Windows 11's requirements even more disappointing.

Apple is the king of tossing away older tech before it's even ready to be replaced. I remember when they removed floppy drives long before USB drives were a thing, and how early they ditched optical drives, they were very quick to axe 32 bit support too which Windows has not done at all. They removed PPC CPU support in a freaking OS upgrade! Leopard to Snow Leopard only worked on Intel CPUs, fun for those still on a PPC based Mac...

Linux... eh, not sure, they are only recently dropping 486 support, but I don't know what the scenario is with running 20-30 year old versions of apps on a modern 64 bit distro.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:36:41 No.11768895 Report

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>>11767918
And its coded in SDL, another pro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:36:52 No.11768896 Report

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>>11768886
>I don't know what the scenario is with running 20-30 year old versions of apps on a modern 64 bit distro
There are many old closed-source Linux ports of games, for starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:37:32 No.11768901 Report

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>>11768534
I've seen 486 systems that still required you to manually configure the HDD geometry, though that could have just been a shitty system, I admit most I have seen could auto-detect by then. Jumpers for the HDD were always a thing any time IDE was involved, and even that was not consistent. I once had a system that would take forever to POST, namely at the stage where it would detect the HDDs. I had them configured correctly as Master and Slave but it still took forever to detect them. I one day tried setting them both to Cable Select even though I preferred to assign them manually instead of let the PC do it... and it would POST instantly after that. It would take forever to post if your drives were not set to Cable Select!

And yes, having to install DOS (and then in some cases Windows 3.11) and properly configure autoexec.bat and config.sys even in an emulated system is already a messy chore, I have no interest in dealing with that mess on actual systems where I would need to keep messing with physical hardware and jumpers. I mess with modern PC hardware all the time, but I do NOT miss messing with legacy hardware, I'm sure I forgot a lot of it by now. I remember having to mess with the jumpers on an ISA card on my Pentium 3 system to configure it's addresses, which had ISA, PCI, and even AGP cards in it.

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Anonymous Tue 27 May 2025 21:31:59 No.11763320 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11768875 >>11768898

Is Donkey Kong more of a Nintendo mascot than Mario, like people are familiar with him even if they haven't played the games, and they still do.

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Anonymous Wed 28 May 2025 20:49:02 No.11765325 Report

Quoted By: >>11767235

He's on-par, Donkey Kong is as famous as Pac-Man. I'd say Mario is both more recognizable and more memorable for the general populous now, since it's been so long. But there's almost nobody who knows Mario but doesn't know Donkey Kong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 16:54:41 No.11767235 Report

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>>11765325
>populous
populace

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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 17:30:44 No.11767295 Report

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>>11765187
Well my kids are safe from your cull. Though they debate if Pauline counts as a princess

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:21:21 No.11768875 Report

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>>11763320
mario became mascot during nes era. arcade era was donkey kong. people seem to forget how popular that arcade machine was. without it, the nes wouldn't have existed.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:37:28 No.11768898 Report

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>>11763320
>Is Donkey Kong more of a Nintendo mascot than Mario
No because he aped the cultural popularity of King Kong so Nintendo doesn't get to claim him as their own.

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Anonymous Thu 29 May 2025 04:01:26 No.11766156 View View Reply Original Report

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Why did people turn on Quake 2's campaign? Obviously it was overshadowed by the multiplayer but the single player reviewed well and was generally quite liked at the time, though in the last 10-15 years people seem to have been shitting on it relentlessly.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 08:00:27 No.11768657 Report

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>>11768178
You're pretty correct on everything there, though I wouldn't single out Fairweather as the 'leader' there. He's not particularly special, and there's enough of a hivemind of alike degenerates there that any one of them could come and go with little difference.
Regardless, Map-Center (and subsequently Quake 2 as a whole) is going to meet the same fate soon enough. Every time I look in there I see more and more Q1 community freaks coming over and trying to build clout. They'll reach a critical mass and things will start getting real bad real quick.

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:07:50 No.11768847 Report

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The best levels in Q2 are the ones in space if only because of NO MOTHERFUCKING ORANGE SKYBOX!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:14:53 No.11768864 Report

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>>11768587
Why is the community still so active and producing so much content 32 years later if it's not that good?
Are you saying it's popular because it's popular because it's popular because it's popular because it's popular because it's popular?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:20:00 No.11768872 Report

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sex with iron maiden 24/7

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Anonymous Fri 30 May 2025 11:37:02 No.11768897 Report

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>>11768587
A lot of idsoft shooter fans have trouble making comparisons in a bubble: They get kind of interested in Doom, come across mods, play a bunch of them, and then use that experience as a basis when comparing it to other similar games.
It doesn’t even have to be mods: There’s people comparing Doom 1 + 2 + Final Doom with just Quake 1 and Quake 2 - no expansions for either.

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